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Dungeon Crawler
Posts: 741
Joined: 28 Jul 2004

I would first ask your self what interests you. What do you want to accomplish?

EVE is far too "deep" to just download and start playing. You can do that, but that is why so many people try it and quit saying it's boring or too complicated.

I actually went my first whole year just running solo. I would quit, then be back within a month or two. I felt there was more to the game than what I was seeing and doing. Then I enrolled in Agony's PvP University's Basic class.

That was it, I was hooked. Combat in EVE (when you really know what you are doing) is a serious rush. You can take down ships MUCH larger and more powerful with a squad of small specialized ships with competent pilots.

It is something that must be experienced. I encourage any interested to give it a try.

For your reading pleasure: http://xiphos83.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/frigates-agony-and-an-unfriendly-alliance/

WarCry Choice
Posts: 6301
Joined: 30 Jun 2004

Follow Hemi's advice, and use your trial to take some lessons with Agony or Eve University. When you log in, get into the help channel (the tutorial will show you how to do that) and ask there about either Agony or Eve University and they'll send you on your way.
There is a fee to the classes, the last time I checked, but it is quite small and perhaps you would be able to bum it off somebody if you ask around.

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Frakking hippies.

I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to smell dark matter.
-Brother John Cavil

Master Looter
Posts: 1713
Joined: 9 Jan 2009

My free trial ended, shame i didn't really enjoy it. Oh well each to their own.

Power Leveler
Posts: 3639
Joined: 3 Apr 2008

well... I brought my First Hurricane today... Gank Fitted in prep for 0.0 fleet battles...

You get primaried in anything your going down anyway

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WarCry Choice
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Joined: 30 Jun 2004

Hurricane for fleet engagements? O.o That's a close combat ship. If you managed to somehow fit it with arties, do tell about it :)

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Frakking hippies.

I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to smell dark matter.
-Brother John Cavil

Power Leveler
Posts: 3639
Joined: 3 Apr 2008

guitar:
Hurricane for fleet engagements? O.o That's a close combat ship. If you managed to somehow fit it with arties, do tell about it :)

It's possible for fleet engagement.... MWD and a 1600mm plate work wonders ^^

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Dungeon Crawler
Posts: 741
Joined: 28 Jul 2004

orangebandguy:
My free trial ended, shame i didn't really enjoy it. Oh well each to their own.

I am truly sorry that you didn't enjoy the game. I wish CCP could, in some way, make the learning curve a bit less steep.

But, in the end, that is the games appeal.

It's like a new job, you learn a whole sh-t pile of stuff, only to find out you use about 20% of it on a daily basis. But in getting there, you have mastered your role.

I think the trick to EVE is taking small bites, that and finding people in game who will help you along. For most, the amount of information you are presented with is daunting to say the least.

WarCry Choice
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smallharmlesskitten:

guitar:
Hurricane for fleet engagements? O.o That's a close combat ship. If you managed to somehow fit it with arties, do tell about it :)

It's possible for fleet engagement.... MWD and a 1600mm plate work wonders ^^

With 1600mm even a MWD won't make you move :P

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Frakking hippies.

I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to smell dark matter.
-Brother John Cavil

Power Leveler
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Joined: 3 Apr 2008

guitar:

smallharmlesskitten:

guitar:
Hurricane for fleet engagements? O.o That's a close combat ship. If you managed to somehow fit it with arties, do tell about it :)

It's possible for fleet engagement.... MWD and a 1600mm plate work wonders ^^

With 1600mm even a MWD won't make you move :P

950 m/s thank you very much

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Power Leveler
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Joined: 3 Apr 2008

-Hemi-:

orangebandguy:
My free trial ended, shame i didn't really enjoy it. Oh well each to their own.

I am truly sorry that you didn't enjoy the game. I wish CCP could, in some way, make the learning curve a bit less steep.

But, in the end, that is the games appeal.

It's like a new job, you learn a whole sh-t pile of stuff, only to find out you use about 20% of it on a daily basis. But in getting there, you have mastered your role.

I think the trick to EVE is taking small bites, that and finding people in game who will help you along. For most, the amount of information you are presented with is daunting to say the least.

NPE should help that Hemi... double SP training time til 1.8mil and everything

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Master Looter
Posts: 2146
Joined: 7 Sep 2008

smallharmlesskitten:

-Hemi-:

orangebandguy:
My free trial ended, shame i didn't really enjoy it. Oh well each to their own.

I am truly sorry that you didn't enjoy the game. I wish CCP could, in some way, make the learning curve a bit less steep.

But, in the end, that is the games appeal.

It's like a new job, you learn a whole sh-t pile of stuff, only to find out you use about 20% of it on a daily basis. But in getting there, you have mastered your role.

I think the trick to EVE is taking small bites, that and finding people in game who will help you along. For most, the amount of information you are presented with is daunting to say the least.

NPE should help that Hemi... double SP training time til 1.6 mil and everything

Fixed.

The real key isn't only the faster training time, but the fact that a new player has less skills to start out with, and therefore will be better able to train what they want to train. CCP is going to have new players starting out with few skillpoints so the new players don't feel overwhelmed by a ton of skills (useful ones, I might add, but ones the player may not immediately understand fully) that they don't know what to do with.

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Dungeon Crawler
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Joined: 28 Jul 2004

Jamanticus:

smallharmlesskitten:

-Hemi-:

orangebandguy:
My free trial ended, shame i didn't really enjoy it. Oh well each to their own.

I am truly sorry that you didn't enjoy the game. I wish CCP could, in some way, make the learning curve a bit less steep.

But, in the end, that is the games appeal.

It's like a new job, you learn a whole sh-t pile of stuff, only to find out you use about 20% of it on a daily basis. But in getting there, you have mastered your role.

I think the trick to EVE is taking small bites, that and finding people in game who will help you along. For most, the amount of information you are presented with is daunting to say the least.

NPE should help that Hemi... double SP training time til 1.6 mil and everything

Fixed.

The real key isn't only the faster training time, but the fact that a new player has less skills to start out with, and therefore will be better able to train what they want to train. CCP is going to have new players starting out with few skillpoints so the new players don't feel overwhelmed by a ton of skills (useful ones, I might add, but ones the player may not immediately understand fully) that they don't know what to do with.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. The NPE as it stands is a bad idea.

With this change, instead of taking 1 month to learn learning skills, it now takes half of the time. Minus the time it used to take to get memory up to level 4/3 which is another 4-5 days saved.

This means it only takes new players 10 days to get basic to 4, and advanced to 3.

This alone is not an issue, as anything that makes new players have to spend less time training learning skills is a good thing.

however , once you lose your double training bonus, you lose not only half learning speed, but 4 times slower learning speed than IF you trained learning skills during your double training rate.

SO if you don't train learning you will train 4 times slower than a player that did train learning skills before hand.

But that's not all.... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1012189

Master Looter
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-Hemi-:

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. The NPE as it stands is a bad idea.

Oh, I agree with you on that, I was just pointing out the rationale CCP had behind the new system.

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Dungeon Crawler
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Jamanticus:

-Hemi-:

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. The NPE as it stands is a bad idea.

Oh, I agree with you on that, I was just pointing out the rationale CCP had behind the new system.

Ahh, then I agree with you as well my friend. :)

Master Looter
Posts: 1611
Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Well, I start playing, thanks to Hemi, once my laptop finishes downloading it.

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I report badge farmers so that way they can't get their precious Matrix badges, among others. Abide by our rules, and do not spam up areas just because you think they're dead. I read dead areas frequently to report badge farming, as it's strongly frowned upon, and necroing is against the rules.

Dungeon Crawler
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Joined: 28 Jul 2004

LivemeLifefree:
Well, I start playing, thanks to Hemi, once my laptop finishes downloading it.

Good for you!

One thing, there are others that play the game. I know that Guitar does, as well as Jamanticus. They might be willing to kick down some buddy passes. We are limited in the amount we can give and as with most passes if you subscribe, we get a free month.

Just want to spread the love around a bit.

Master Looter
Posts: 1611
Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Well, if I like the game I'll subscribe. I've some friends who play this and they like it because it's easy to work around a college schedual. If I could get a job soon I'd more then likely subscribe to this then LoTRO.

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I report badge farmers so that way they can't get their precious Matrix badges, among others. Abide by our rules, and do not spam up areas just because you think they're dead. I read dead areas frequently to report badge farming, as it's strongly frowned upon, and necroing is against the rules.

WarCry Choice
Posts: 6301
Joined: 30 Jun 2004

Actually, this month I'm not playing. Exams are in this month, plus it would be nice to give the BoB fiasco some time to cool down. You'll have to ask Hemi for a pass =(

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Frakking hippies.

I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to smell dark matter.
-Brother John Cavil

Master Looter
Posts: 1611
Joined: 27 Mar 2008

I got one from him. My name is Milo Semreh. And on my computer all the ships look funky because my video card isn't supported.

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I report badge farmers so that way they can't get their precious Matrix badges, among others. Abide by our rules, and do not spam up areas just because you think they're dead. I read dead areas frequently to report badge farming, as it's strongly frowned upon, and necroing is against the rules.

Power Leveler
Posts: 3639
Joined: 3 Apr 2008

-Hemi-:

LivemeLifefree:
Well, I start playing, thanks to Hemi, once my laptop finishes downloading it.

Good for you!

One thing, there are others that play the game. I know that Guitar does, as well as Jamanticus. They might be willing to kick down some buddy passes. We are limited in the amount we can give and as with most passes if you subscribe, we get a free month.

Just want to spread the love around a bit.

Hey I play too!! Dont forget me

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WarCry Choice
Posts: 6301
Joined: 30 Jun 2004

Yes, you even went and made a corp for WarCry/Escapists. What was the name of that one, again?

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Frakking hippies.

I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to smell dark matter.
-Brother John Cavil

Master Looter
Posts: 2146
Joined: 7 Sep 2008

It's now defunct, hehe....
Its proper name was Nth Element, though. A highly prosperous corp with many bodies.......Two people really, including me......*weeps*

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WarCry Choice
Posts: 6301
Joined: 30 Jun 2004

Let it be known then, that the Nth Element shall forever be remembered in our hearts as the greatest corp the world of Eve has never seen. =(

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Frakking hippies.

I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to smell dark matter.
-Brother John Cavil

Dungeon Crawler
Posts: 741
Joined: 28 Jul 2004

guitar:
Let it be known then, that the Nth Element shall forever be remembered in our hearts as the greatest corp the world of Eve has never seen. =(

Hear, hear!

Master Looter
Posts: 1611
Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Why not recreate it?

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I report badge farmers so that way they can't get their precious Matrix badges, among others. Abide by our rules, and do not spam up areas just because you think they're dead. I read dead areas frequently to report badge farming, as it's strongly frowned upon, and necroing is against the rules.

WarCry Choice
Posts: 6301
Joined: 30 Jun 2004

I think the essence of the problem is,

Jamanticus:
Two people really, including me

there.

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Frakking hippies.

I want to see gamma rays. I want to hear x-rays. I want to smell dark matter.
-Brother John Cavil

Master Looter
Posts: 1611
Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Well, I understand that, but I think other's would join now, or atlest I'd hope so.

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I report badge farmers so that way they can't get their precious Matrix badges, among others. Abide by our rules, and do not spam up areas just because you think they're dead. I read dead areas frequently to report badge farming, as it's strongly frowned upon, and necroing is against the rules.

WarCry Choice
Posts: 10107
Joined: 4 Aug 2004

Sorry. If I join a Corp, it will be a big corp where I would get some sort of benefit from being a member...be it help with the basics, getting me involved in bigger aspects of the world, or general PvP later on.

Adventurer
Posts: 323
Joined: 18 Feb 2009

There is no benefit to big corps other than having more people to talk to.

Power Leveler
Posts: 3639
Joined: 3 Apr 2008

Antidamacus:
There is no benefit to big corps other than having more people to talk to.

One question.

Do you actually play?

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Adventurer
Posts: 323
Joined: 18 Feb 2009

smallharmlesskitten:

Antidamacus:
There is no benefit to big corps other than having more people to talk to.

One question.

Do you actually play?

I haven't logged in for about a week while a skill trains up.

WarCry Choice
Posts: 10107
Joined: 4 Aug 2004

Sometimes, skill training makes me weep as I watch the bar slowly tick down.

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